In a story on Northern Beaches Review, Bob Orth, who lives in one of the houses behind the seawall, said the seawall should inspire others to do likewise. Building a vertical [with over-top] wall is about as insane a design as you can get, as stated and proven by all the intelligent people on this forum. First and foremost they say It's for erosion control but as you've seen after 2011 they did pretty much sfa. There's only a loss to be made for the purchases. Photograph: Northern Beaches Council Library Local Studies. Hi Craig, the short answer is I'm not sure as I have been out of NSW too long. This is where I live. Shit.That looks like they are preparing for an invasion. It might be cold comfort to the home owners, but there's always a certain risk to be taken, anywhere you might choose to live. The recently constructed Collaroy seawall yesterday failed - or passed - its first real test, depending on which side of it you stand. and the second last line of your article states- State govt has been acquiring properties for more toll roads of late and they have been getting low-balled big time, totally screwed over. If anyone was to slide down the edge during one of these high-tide swells there would be a high chance of being washed off their feet and dragged out to sea. This clearly did not happen at Collaroy. If no acquisition or buyback is made, then good luck to the owners trying to sell these properties. What insanity! I tear up and swear to myself. Now digging up the facts of this case would prove fascinatingthe applicant, the judges, the arguments, the ruling etc one if there is precedent for seeking compensation for judicial rulings made in error. The people responsible for awarding the contracts get huge kickbacks. They may have a wall, but there will be no beach in front of it. I looked at the Bruun rule - i think it was roughly 10cm sea level rise = 1metre of beach vanishes? The engineers would have likely argued against this for the reasons given above (and then some). The Gold Coast has undoubtedly the most at risk coastline in Australia. Not to mention the many brutalist houses dotting its once beautiful headlands. Has been for a while. there is no excuse for purchasing a property on the beach in the last 30 years let alone 5 without an inkling of understanding of the risks. Also any factual statements need reference links to scientific papers backing them up if they are to be taken seriously That's the most sensible thing I've read so far. Your browser has JavaScript disabled. The sooner we (as humans) acknowledge the nature of nature, and work with it instead of against it, the better for everybody. I dare say the neighbours are on notice too. July 28, 2021 - 7:04AM. Ocean Pools > Skate Bowls > Wave Pools > "Boomer'z Backwash Booger Bowl", Crew requested the Turning Japanese Tool Box, History of Collaroy Erosion / Wave Pools / Tow Surfers. Aside from high tides and Tsunamis, Im guessing most islands/atolls dont suffer much erosion when surrounded by reefs? OK this is the real one. Insurance companies know this. Just like when the stock price of a company increases because of a speculated takeover bid. the Senior Environmental Officer" Northern Beaches NSW govt!! Sounds like the beach will be off limits/ too dangerous to walk on for weeks until the NSW Beaches Council recovers the rusting rebarb & concrete waste scattered along the beach then? A quick trip Todos Santos way during a belting nor'west swell. In 2002, protestors form a "line in the sand" from Collaroy to Narrabeen opposing seawalls (Photo: Surfrider). Looking at that DA via Stu's link, it must have taken a considerable, possibly illegal, effort to keep that out of the hands of those community members with a long record of interest in the matter. Its all about the squeaky wheel. I'd reckon the road, arterial services (electrical, sewerage, etc) and the houses all factors. In the future, the problems may well be exacerbated by the above but they did not cause it "in the first place". Look at offshore reefs around all the pacific islands. I've written about it before but the real reason here is money- it is massive pork-barreling on an unprecedented scale. as my old mate hutch likes to say. (As we all know, unfortunately, money/wealth/property seems to be many people's priority, and corrupt opportunists step in to "help" with that). It is possible that this is part of the Silverback's Seachange pork barrel rollout. Go figure! On the release of his latest edit, R-Cal chats to Swellnet about love and other acrobatics. The GOR situation is far more complicated than Willi's well-intentioned advice makes out. With expected sea level rises obviosly making those matters worse - however there is some irony in the fact Gina Reinheart whose carbon footprint is horrendous, just bought the most exposed land in sunshine beach to these very issues - but im also stressed people like her etc will want to build sea walls down the track. Men sand-bag properties on Collaroy Beach Arlington Building and a run of houses to the north circa 1922. Can somebody please sack almost ALL so called coastal engineers for Fuck's sake! Rock barrels at its best! In Japan, their solution is to just go bigger and higher . An awkward situation, but only for one of the parties, as the Woz suspends the current Longboard World Champ. The exception of course is if youre a donor to the LNP then a $3M block of land can be sold for $30M!!! I just can't see HOW these monstrosities ever get approved, purely on an engineering level. Its like stepping forty years back in time. This is very different to Collaroy. Great stuff. Collaroy Sea Wall Client: Citilink Piling With such close proximity to the ocean, our client tasked us with producing an alternative to the commonly used polystyrene forms. I have a blanket policy of not feeling sorry for people owning properties worth multiple millions of dollars, who have lived the better part of their lives walking from their beachfront home directly onto the sand. A northeast swell generated by ex-TC Seth off Queensland,. Perhaps the omission was because in 2002, protestors, led by Brendan Donohoe and Surfrider Foundation founder Tom Kirsop, formed a line in the sand stretching from Collaroy to Narrabeen opposing the construction of any seawalls. The State Government essentially provided the compensation for the business to relocate to another 'suitable' site. I guess that makes offshore options quite limited, So I'm a little confused as to why there are hardly any real solutions put forward to deal with coastal erosion in 2021, despite our huge body of scientific knowledge regarding the issue. Your browser has JavaScript disabled. Are the exposed quarried rocks part of the construction/ foundation or are they from pre existing efforts. This widely publicized protest was an attempt to promote a pro-democracy, civil liberty, social justice message, and to protest against corporate greed and economic inequality. The Collaroy Beach coastline on May 6, 2016 before major storms swept the shoreline. Stop wasting money and do something that will achieve the intended goals. Collaroy sea wall. Apparently there was a buy back scheme that faltered in the early 1980's when the department of public works ran out of money. Market value is driven by what people are willing to pay for it. The fact that an engineer/s designed this crazy-ass wall is the concern I raised. A "macabre" scene greeted surfers followinga mass kill of invertebrates. Maybe start a thread in the Forumsand you must have a few Wild sea tales to tell with 560 Lord Howe trips under your belt. I think they would be very happy with an ugly seawall. What they fail to mention is the massive corruption that's involved in awarding these contracts and the fact that the construction companies themselves for the most part, are predominantly Yakuza. The council will be the lone 'interest'. which is why the video is so interesting. A new wavepool development for the Sunshine Coast points to the future of pools in Australia. oh yeah and someone call security. For some it. There is a common denominator here, "Coastal" engineers with a lack of knowledge and understanding of coastal processes. Initial reports claim Marcio Friere wasn't wearing an inflatable vest when he was held down in large waves. But several of those areas experiencing recession are linked to important infrastructure that the authorities want to protect - depending on were you are, the GOR also houses telecoms, sewerage and other infrastructure. Environmental vandalism or gross negligence? Im presuming that sand delivery's from the lagoon will be an ongoing thing. the hardest decisions should be the easiest. We had made a big mistake that would become bigger. >>Really dumb idea. Here's a screengrab from the website about the proposed breakwall extension: It seems that the main concern about the extension is the interruption of the natural flow of sand onto Mooloolaba beach and hence increased erosion risk. The facts stand as such, an Engineer/s designed this monstrosity and no amount of excuses can change that. Ignorant clown" Ratepayer/taxpayer bailout, so business as usual whatever happened to caveat emptor? They were concerned the sand directly in front of the seawall would be washed away, eroding their beach, and, on Tuesday, that's exactly what happened. Buy backs should only be an.option when they contribute to an environmentally sound solution. Furthermore they have facilitated an increase of erosion to adjacent beaches. Not sure how they would fix them to the sand though. It is all about the road. Beaches like Bondi still had sand dunes and likely better banks all around. Should this critical lens be applied to other topics such as the Coolum wavepool? LGA's apply for state and federal funding on offer for range of purposes. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II died in Balmoral on 8 September 2022 (GMT) at age 96. These very costly bandaids never work and continue to fail while extending the problem to adjacent properties that don't have the wall. Everything else may go but that wall is here to stay. Both Brendan Donohoe and Angus Gordon, and other people Swellnet spoke to, admit to being blindsided by the construction. A barrier reef in place would no doubt have knock-on effects. I have to disagree. The first application for a sloping structure was widely publicised and accepted by most who saw it. Anybody heard of rising ocean levels & retreat by wealthy landholders who where allowed to build in the dune systems which nature designed to replenish the beaches? In 1974I witnessed what cyclonic ocean power can do to ignorantly planned beach development 50 years on and a lot of sea miles under my belt. They have access to and use a large suit of software modeling tools, but unfortinately a lot of them don't have outputs that non-scientists can get their head around [just numbers which are meaningless on the surface unless you understand what they represent.] (AO) It's corrupt to the eyeballs and the only winners are the crooked pollies and the dodgy construction companies while the once beautiful Japanese coastline is lost forever. The National Library of Australia's Copies Direct service lets you purchase higher quality, larger sized photocopies or electronic copies of newspapers pages. It will improve beach access. I guess that the levees will give me a 100% guarantee that it'll never happen in my lifetime". As hostile native rescue party moves in for the killOh the Humanityreads Humilityreads Kook! From deep state secret spot to modern media darling, what lessons can we learn from Cape Solander's evolution? "We haven't had a flood here for 20 years you say. BB who is getting the sand which has gone from here? It certainly doesn't make it the best decision though. Indeed. In one of the pics you see plant equipnent tearing up the beach in preparation for constructing a wall. The contractor is required to remove this temporary working platform and bund at the completion of the works, sieve the sand and remove all debris, and return the beach to its former state.. And ALL received in a 3 day period 17-19 July 2017. Theyve introduced these gently sloped walls to broaden the widths of the roads to protect them from erosion. The thing is- in those pics, behind the walls, there's really not much to protect. Even though they are sure to meet codethey dont look to going by the pic. If you don't know know shit about the processes of the ocean and coastal erosion then please put your hand up and say so. The track became a road. The only way now is to harness the power of coastal construction science and engineering. Sorry Peter but we can't just take you on your word for it. This would reduce the lateral movement of sand along this stretch of beach, reducing the natural erosion while creating some great banks. The main issue is that the cables are protected in whatever is proposed. @dawnperiscope These contracts to the construction companies are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. There are 11 parcels of public land (including the Collaroy carpark, South Narrabeen Surf Club, reserves and road ends) interspersed between 49 private parcels of land that require protection. That's a form of speculation I believe. First it was a track. I wonder if they're intended as some kind of device to absorb/dissipate energy rather than as trafficable stairs? As I understand it, governments have been reluctant to purchase vulnerable properties because there will be so many of them and the public purse could never afford it. I will try and find some pics of my area. Isn't an extension to the Point Cartwright breakwall on the cards aa well? Offshore reefs would be expensive , but we are already spending 100's of millions on bad solutions that actually cause more problems than they solve so money cannot be used as an excuse. collaroy vs long reef, have always had signifcant erosion issues. This also creates problems when people try and keep claiming land as shorelines migrate seaward in times of accretion. Ha! Our services included: Pre-Work Detail Survey for existing surface levels at design chainages. After five years and four contests, the performance level at Kelly's Hot Tub hasn't evolved but instead gone the other way. Thanks heaps for the update Craig. The Collaroy seawall was in part constructed after a significant storm event in 2016 eroded 50 metres along the Narrabeen and Collaroy shoreline, causing damage to waterside properties. Structures appeared. Im not sure that councils have the legal authority to acquire the land, pretty sure that resides with State governments and the Feds only in certain circumstances. However, NSW has an intricate coastal management and development approval system and surely there's a paper trail for the various consents and approvals for this abomination which would be subject to FOI? https://www.celeria.org/ Much better to work out a solution where the public doesnt lose their beach as per collaroy, but councils/government do need to help landowners. There is no evidence whatsoever of accelerated erosion seaward of these newly constructed works. Children protest the building of a seawall at Collaroy-Narrabeen in 2002. NewsDNARaw. This forms a foredune and a backdude. Any chance of a dedicated ErosionCam, Swellnet? 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