Original stitching intact. 2 Policing Germany, including Police Unit Marks Chapt. Reportedly next to the remaining lot of 2,760 of these readied blank toggle pistols also a small quantity of unmarked toggles came from Berlin to Oberndorf. 19-130 text caption Sturgess specifically states that the cleaning rod pouch of the pictured cut-back artillery to police holster, currently of the LOB collection, was modified to carry the police cleaning rod with added brass stopper, which is inaccurate as the police brass stop cleaning rod with a seven ring wooden handle cannot be inserted past the added, upper leather cleaning rod pouch section, securing cover flap brass stud as the bell-shaped, rather large 13 m/m diameter brass stopper, permanently affixed to the much smaller 5.5 m/m diameter of the steel cleaning rod, engages the protruding internal metal retaining lip of the added cleaning rod pouch brass stud. Faint, illegible makers markings are stamped inside the cover flap. The base is too thick and the ball shape is incorrect. The second being a 1920s chamber stamped commercial P.08 Luger 9754r that is forward gripstrap police marked lengthwise S. M. 1704. or (Prussia) Schutzpolizei Mnster 1074 - Protection Police, Mnster district 7. The last numbers on the line indicate the item number of the item that was Bie der Reubearbeitung des Kap. Individual cases are put together and explained in a practical way using many examples. 5.6 (Cleaning Kit 34) pictured (Fig. When is the right time to sell back 9780985833503 Police Lugers: German Police Lugers and Their Markings 1918-1958? 1: 506: Discontinued use of markings. by Igorak89 07 May 2016, 13:07, Post And when new information comes out, sometimes "old" information is shown to be wrong. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. Translated cover of The Police Pistols, Dresden manual. The German state depended on the stabilizing Luger wooden box cleaning kit. Mauser or the Police HQ in Berlin? Receiver proof, some post war reworked Lugers. Abtlg. regulations issued in 1922, and are shown in the following table. Pictured is one such example with pattern likely dating from the Weimar period, identified as a German fire defense police belt buckle with a beautiful design emblem with the following inscription of: God to Honor ~ Neighbor to Defend. With his permission, I have posted it below. Pictured is another modified example. Versailles, and after repeated demands by the IMKK, on June 29, 1921, the VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. collar assembly to be aligned with forward main According to August Weiss these were used 'as is' on pistols assembled by Mauser and which were exclusively sold to the German Police. There are many possible combinations of Pictured are three views of a fine example holster; view 1, view 2, view 3. Sturgess in TBLAP also states that the new police cleaning rods were issued to each police pistol, further stating in the Fig. Opinion 3: I strongly believe what you have is a Heeres-Zeugamt produced holster. This assumes that the cut-back Artillery to Police holster and the modification of the cleaning rod/pouch/sleeve and cover flap were contemporaneous operations. The blade was shortened from 17 inches to 13 inches. On the grip strap there are the markings L.Me.284. Pictured is an exceptional example of one such Police officer private purchase, unmarked and unmodified Weimar era Police clamshell dress bayonet. DWM Luger Identification Guide. They sure set off a display real nice. It has the matching last two digits of the serial number in the various other parts. The lower underlined rear cover statement of both volumes translates to: Furthermore, all books required for the use of the police schools in all areas of knowledge on the most favorable conditions are to be obtained from the assortment of the next edition. I could not get the other proof mark to enlarge enough to really see what it is, but with that "L" to the right of it, it is a German Police proof mark. Eagle over 83 is the marking for the responsable acceptance office for Mauser (WaA83). Used by Police forces guarding warehouses operated by the Heerszeugment. Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. issued to a unit; e.g., the 351st P08 pistol issued to the Schutzpolizei by Poot 08 May 2016, 08:12, Post Founded in 1999. Opening the loading tool cover flap reveals the original brown leather. Police Lugers is a work of research by Dwight Gruber and Edward Tinker that has taken innumerable hours over five years to tell the tale of the history and evolution of the police in Germany, specifically about their usage of the German P08 (Luger pistol). The first stamp of WwMg/41 may signify Waffenwerk Magdeburg. Joachim Grtz in Die Pistole 08 2004, determined, which somewhat supports the above, earlier conclusion in Weimar Lugers, where on page 239 Grtz basically stated that: The police cleaning rod with the brass stop is unsuitable for carrying with the holster. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 5 ----------------------------------------------------------. The author, using the word reportedly, twice in the caption, suggests or implies that he is skeptical or not convinced that the ERMA pictured muzzle protector was used as described. feared that an expanded police force would become a ready reserve for the The Police holster rear is stamped with the P.08 pistol issue number or serial number 1021. A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. out and what appears to be a Nazi issue number 522 added to the scabbard metal throat and bayonet handle cross-bar. All of this is conjecture of course but it stands up to close inspection. Der Mangel an einschlgigen Fachbchern ift oft betlagt worden. These markings were not used by the Nazis, thus we will see many Bayonets that are mismatched - which is not the case with the subject bayonet with original Weimar era matching accountability numbers S.B. This Luger has all matching numbers. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Pictured is one such P08 police grip strap example, compared against variation 1 muzzle protector 2866, where no additional marks were added. 1/11/23 - This is an original WW2 era production Luger magazine. The post WW2 German Railway system apparently still required police protection as evidenced by the subject pictured FN Browning M1922 7.65 mm pistol, stamped, interestingly, Bahnpolizei (Railway Police) U.S. WaA107 Auwrter & Bubeck, Stuttgart 1934, no example noted. links[9]='http://www.cashicollection.com'; (Bavarian) State Police. The German purpose about HIPO was clear: To help Gestapo as a Danish helping-police. The holster was obtained with a cleaning rod, marked on a milled flat section of the shaft Sunburst S (1932-36), specifically made to be used with police Lugers. Sind viele Uenderungen aus dem Gebiete des Staats=, Polizei= und Strafrechts eingetreten. revolutionaries. In actuality, both above statements are correct, as the first statement that a majority of the cut-back LP.08 holsters used by the police are without a police cleaning rod is accurate, however, in cannot be denied that some, at least one, in this instance, was modified (unsuccessfully), specifically to carry the police cleaning rod as evidenced the very rare subject example. Brown (dyed black) leather marked, "MORD HURST/KIEL/SATTLER" on the back (very faintly) Navy style markings "eagle/M" underneath.. Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. yes sir it the sear and magazine safety installed. The American, British and French allies in concert with Germany restructured the western Berlin Police to reflect the western democracies as illustrated by the then leader of the free world; another picture. In the publication History Writ in Steel by Don Maus 2009, chapter 6, page 86, Figure 6-6 discusses and shows a similar marked, cut-back artillery holster, unfortunately, showing only the holster marking, not the holster, leaving the exact configuration of the holster unknown, thus making the subject, uniquely modified holster, the only known published example. If the width of the sight blade sliding base is too wide, it will bind in the muzzle protector collar slot. Many of its members (for example which or Leder Zuweisungs Amt (Leather Allocation Office) over a Prussian Eagle over J. Berlin. Knowing that, and having the history of the By Bade, 16 April , 2021 in Arms and other weapons. Additionally, since the subject holster body attached cleaning rod, cut-back from the original, approximately 230 m/m length to 180 m/m length (or 210 m/m total with the added 30 m/m section) leather pouch/sleeve is original to the holster body, as attested by the original stitching. The first 1920s Weimar era police Luger holster of new manufacture to be recognized as such is not manufacture marked is a black dyed leather, full cover flap with a holster body attached, pear-shaped up-strap secured to the cover flap without a keeper via the leather slit and brass stud method. On the rear cover the books contents are further described as: official guide for Prussian police officers. Best, Pat He who lives by the sword, should train with it frequently. made LP.08 holster, cut-back modified/converted in the Weimar era for use with a police P.08, 4-inch barrel Luger. Description. Each state (Pomerania, Prussia, Silesia, etc.) Igorak89 Member Posts: 35 Joined: 03 Oct 2013, 10:01 Location: Serbia Re: Luger markings identification - help The lack of a holster maker on the rear, between the belt loops is not unusual considering its WW1 Imperial army origins, however, there is also no evidence of a maker mark under the cover flap. and - S. H. 133. are hidden, being located under the cover flap, whereas other identified, non-holster Hannover markings, such as Police P08s are prominently marked. Kriminalpolizei (detective force), Assigned to Although, looking like a post 1926 type 2 police holster, being stamped on the rear with a P.08 serial number 1108 located on the rear panel in the upper right corner, usually associated with police holsters, it has an army E/WaAJL16 stamping. links[8]='http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com'; This interference issue varies from barrel to barrel, curiously, to both police and non-police P.08 9mm Lugers, depending on the width of the sight blade sliding base. Army, Navy, Police, "Indeed, I am in strong support of your thesis that all Luger pistols that went to the H.P contract were produced and delivered by DWM in 1929. The military character and Included with the lot is a black leather flap holster (converted from Artillery to Police configuration, renumbered to match pistol, extensive hand . Still 1993 on page 174, Fig. the police cleaning rod was used in conjunction with a Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector attached to the P.08 sight band/block, many collectors and dealers are not Even though considerably outnumbered, the Riff inflicted nearly six times the number of casualties on the Spanish and French than they suffered. 05-24-2021 12:04 AM by Neil Young. Bavarian State Police (Landespolizei), 1930. August Weiss confirms that these pistols were sold by Mauser to the German Police; this solves my problem. The initials MG represent machine gun and the number being (page 108) 10th Training Corps or (page 216) with the 10 denoting the team number. Sturgess additionally describes the police cleaning rod in the Fig. Nickle plated (1900-1908) or tin plated (1908-1945). those pertaining to German police units in the Weimar and early Nazi era. The gun was converted to a German Police Luger during the Nazi era sometime between 1928, the year of manufacture, and 1934 by adding a sear safety and forward gripstrap Police marking, longitudinally stamped "S.M. SIG Sauer Tango MSR Optic Review: Your Value & Performance LPVO. Also, recently in Strafrecht (Criminal Law) z. L. significant upheavals took place. In the organization of the police, disorder is of decisive importance for the regulation of the individual types of police, without which the reconstruction of this direction, which is so important for the state life, would have been a problem. edge of the barrel sight band/block. Note the non-standard vertical location of added metal belt buckle and strap/keeper cover flap holster, the subject cut-back artillery LP.08 holster to P.08 holster police marked, the bottom edge of the holster body inner liner, Pictured is a WW1 P08 army holster modified to a Police holster in the 1920s, whereas other identified, non-holster Hannover markings, such as Police P08s. Pistols and Holsters. The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols book publications picture and describe cut-back artillery Luger holsters as specifically modified for police Luger carry, there are no Luger book published, period pictures of German Police with a cut-back artillery Luger holster, nor with any standard, non-police P.08 type Luger holster. As a result, the young police officers are faced with new tasks, which prove to be all the more difficult since the new police not only ward off the risks of political and economic struggles, but above all are supposed to be brought back to their actual previous activities. The subject holster is the third such holster identified. If instead of replacing and/or adding a brass stud, the leather worker, when raising the height of the cleaning rod pouch sleeve by adding a piece of leather, at the time simply removed or did not add the lower brass stud, extending the longer section, lower leather piece to where it covered the existing brass stud location. It is interesting to note that in TBLAP, VIII, C19, page 1266 Sturgess states the following: regarding the police cleaning rods: For this purpose, the precincts held the long cleaning rods, similar to the navy P.04 pattern, onto which a brass travel stop was soldered, used in conjunction with the Mndungsschoner (muzzle protector), which was too bulky to fit into any holster (cleaning rod sleeve) compartment and in any case served no purpose if carried on patrol. The the Below, a muzzle protector is shown attached to a Mauser Oberndorf Luger, s.n. regulations issued in 1920, and are shown in the following table. Pictured is an excellent condition WW2 S98 Police Bayonet made by CARL EICKHORN SOLINGEN, It is pictured again as part of a grouping consisting of a period 1937 dated Police manual titled: 1937 PDV 3 Vorfchrift fr die Waffen= und Schieausbildung der Ordnnungspistolen, a 1935 dated Police style Robert Larsen-BERLIN TP stamped holster and a rare 1908/13 triple C/X proofed commercial/military/Police Luger sn 69859. As a result, the holster is about of an inch longer than the typically encountered cut-back artillery holster with a toe plug. links[7]='https://www.marnamilitaria.com'; These HZA markings, excluding the WaAJL16 stampings which, as Costanzo states was specifically used by police forces guarding warehouses operated by the Heerszeugment. It is also unlikely that any of the cut-back artillery holsters will be located with police markings as per TBLAP VIII, C19 page 1267 where it states: Modified army pattern holsters, whether of short LP.08 pattern originally, were not subject to formal inspection and marking upon conversion to the police pattern. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Gustav Reinhardt Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L. Sch.137. the same style holster pictured with a 1920 chamber stamped commercial/Army/Police Luger 70319. The lack of relevant textbooks has often been put to the test. It is very tiny. During the Weimar Era, German police power remained decentralized. Maybe it was a rework from the 20's or 30's. JavaScript is disabled. [2], The earliest dated new manufacture, second pattern regulation police holster is 1929. 9mm Luger Caliber. When identified, either gold or silver, some dated and maker marked, these Prussian State Police belt buckles are described as officer belt buckles and this is somewhat supported as many pictures exist of Weimar Police with ordinary belt buckles. Collectors state the following regarding the WwMg/41 marking: Opinion on these stamps has differed over the years, but current thought is that the marks may be attributed to the waffenwerk depot at Magdeburg. They appear to fall into two categories: P08s that always were P08s and P08s that were formerly unmarked Landjgerei LP08s (many 1918 DWM LP08s) that were reworked by the PTV in 1929-30 and reissued as P08s to the Landjgerei and other police. It was In the manual is pictured the P.08 Luger on pages 17 and 26. One of GT's luger mounts arrived a couple of days ago. The wooden cased German pistol cleaning kits were, apparently, not made exclusively for the P.08 Luger as a 1946 German police instruction manual titled: Die Pistolen der Polizie, dated Dresden 1946 specifically lists several pistols, including the P.08, although other pistols listed are mostly 7.65 mm caliber, all used by the German Police after WW2. institute for technology and transport. Genuine German Luger - Largest Variety of Lugers Offered. $1,000. This would account for the Luftwaffe acceptance stamp. WWI). Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policy. Only one other example has ever been documented. centered in the federal states of Prussia, Bavaria, Baden, Wuerttemberg, WWI History after Treaty of Versailles: German production of 9mm pistols was prohibited. Berlin police group. These bayonets also originally had a Prussian Eagle adorned clam shell device under the grip. the ministry's Official Directory provides clear, concise and easy-to-understand information to the police officers about their own rights and duties and how they are to deal with the daily demands of the service. Pictured is an identical holster in the collection and additionally pictured with a 1908/13 commercial/military/police, no chamber date Luger, serial number 69859 and a separate view of 69859 serialized in the hidden commercial style. that the Schutzpolizei had a military character. Pictured is one such P08 police grip strap example, compared against variation 1 muzzle protector 2866, where no additional marks were added. Pictured is a brown leather 1935 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a TP or Technische Polizeischule property stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 7691;view 1, view 2 and view 3. As to what district the holster was first used is indeterminate, however, Berlin would be the most likely prominent district based on the external location of the Police marking. Sonderwagen-Staffel, gun 5, V. Prussian Police (Schutzpolizei), 1932. It is fortunate that both books stayed together since 1921 and were acquired as a set, both signed by the original owner. The Germans used the letter "J" instead of "I" quite often to avoid confusion with the number "1." GERMAN POLICE LUGER P08 MAGAZINE DOVE MARKINGS. section), Baustaffel der Is wird daher fr alle Polizeibeamten, die mit dem Inhalt des Buches vertraut sind, ein leichtes sein, sich auch in der vorliegenden Reubearbeitung ohne Schwierigteit zurechtzusinden. IV. Captain Ernst Roehm, future head of the SA [Sturmabteilung, a.k.a. An identical pistol variation is aptly described, very few of these early DWM/BKIW/Mauser Oberndorf assembled P.08s were made and. [11]. As Dwight's database shows, most of the blank toggle Lugers have "t" and "u" serial number suffixes. Pictured and described are Police Lugers in the collection, the first being 1908 commercial P.08 s/n 69859 shown with a period police holster. Regarding the S. H.133. These discussions have taken place by numerous collectors in the pages of. Brown would be rural. a 4-digit 1108 believed to be a Police P.08 serial number. There is, however, conclusive evidence that the German police did indeed use cut-back Artillery holsters in the early 1920s Weimar era as a search of the Berlin Federal Archives located a picture identified as Bundesarchiv. RIA 2013 Paul Goldner RBD Halle holster, sold for $3133, The breech is stamped 1920 and the center toggle has DWM monogram on it. 1. (communications maintenance squadron), Kraftfahrabteilung Nazi Lugers and their Accessories, by Jan C. Still, printed by At this moment I believe that these had no toggle markings - a remaining lot of the 'Riff' contract. It is, therefore, hard to imagine that the lower positioned brass stud, affixed to the original cleaning rod pouch/sleeve, despite its thicker base, is a replacement of non-German origin. 31. 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger. The exact date or time frame of the second conversion is uncertain, which could have been in the late 1920s or early 1930s. It is possible the second conversion was even later, around the start of WW2, and if true would Einwohnerwehr had a membership of hundreds of thousands and was Regimental Marking [Revised Edition] by Jeff Noll, P.O. This holster has been incorrectly described as an Air Surveillance Departments Police holster or Luft Hannover based on a 1993 publication titled German Small Arms Markings by Joachim Grtz & Don L. Bryans. Weimar era Police cleaning rods are easily identified by their 7-ring wooden barrel type handles vs. the Imperial era artillery LP.08 and navy P.04 with their 6-ring wooden barrel type wooden handles. Any attempt to insert or force the Police cleaning rod with brass stopper past the brass stud would damage, either the rather stiff, added inflexible cleaning rod upper leather pouch section, the holster body or the actual cleaning rod. Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles. 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